Rewiring the Fog: Focus, Faith, and the Fight to Slow Down
Facing cognitive decline from cancer treatment? Discover how to reclaim your focus, overcome digital distractions, and use holistic habits to heal your mind.
Have you ever felt like your brain is constantly flipping through channels, unable to settle on just one? For many cancer survivors, cognitive decline and focus issues linger long after treatment ends, making everyday tasks feel exhausting. In this episode, we unpack the reality of post-treatment brain fog and share actionable strategies to help you reclaim your mental clarity.
Cassandra and Kayoll get real about the mental burden of balancing high-functioning careers, motherhood, and the invisible cognitive shifts that accompany cancer survivorship. They explore how relentless digital distractions compound this mental haze and openly debate their personal coping mechanisms, from experimenting with attention medications to embracing holistic approaches like fasting, nutrition, and analog time-blocking. Discover the reassuring science behind neuroplasticity that proves your brain can heal, but you’ll have to tune in to find out the one everyday habit you must break to truly find peace.
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Introduction
Kayoll: Hello, Cassandra.
Cassandra: Hello, my friend, Kayole.
Kayoll: And hello to our audience. Welcome to another episode of the Stage Hope Podcast.
Cassandra: All right. How are you feeling today?
Kayoll: Today, I am feeling a bit tired, but good. It’s our first weekend away from our children. They are at our, like their God mom’s house. And so we’re picking them back up tomorrow. So it’s like, oh, wow, the house is really quiet. It’s our first time since they’ve both been born that we’re like away from them.
Cassandra: So can we just clap that up? Can we just clap that up? because we don’t want to wait until retirement for you to have to experience alone time with your partner, your husband, your own home.
Kayoll: Yeah, no, we went last night and we’re like, oh, wow. Remember how this feels?
Cassandra: Right.
Kayoll: Right.
Cassandra: And I think because we lack repetition, it feels new again, right? It feels different, awkward, maybe even sometimes.
Kayoll: Yeah.
Cassandra: But I love that for you guys. It’s important to understand the two people that created the family of four. Right.
Kayoll: Exactly. Exactly.
Cassandra: Very good.
Kayoll: How are you doing, Cass?
Cassandra: Um, I feel busy, which is in turn leaving me tense, a little, a little, I’m trying to relax my shoulders. So I feel a little bit on, too on right now, first, first Sunday.
Kayoll: Okay, I hear that.
Cassandra: I think I’m trying to, what am I inviting? I just want to feel more calm. You don’t have to do everything, but I feel like I have to do everything because it’s Sunday and other tabs will be open once the week gets started.
Kayoll: Yeah, once tomorrow. One thing I try to do as best as I can to manage that is to not plan any meetings on Mondays. I try to push as much as I can any important meetings, especially any that I’m leading, to Tuesdays to kind of give me that Monday to get prepared and to take away the Sunday nerves and jitters and stuff that always comes along with it. Yeah it it helps you know but sometimes it’s still it’s still there regardless.
Cassandra: Yeah i think that’s great work etiquette um nobody should be scheduling any emails or meetings sorry before 10 a.m as far as i’m concerned you got to give people some time to ease, back into it and obviously this being a holiday weekend um and also being this well i’m time stamping it the summertime, time um happy fourth right um i’m hoping that people are gentle coming into this week so, All right, let’s get into it.
Kayoll: All right, what are we talking about today?
Cassandra: What are we talking about today? We’ve gone back and forth trying to prepare for this, and it’s more or less in the shortest form focusing in survivorship, right? There’s a lot that plays into this topic. I would imagine that this is not just a single conversation. We will disclose to the audience that we are not experts, but we are educated individuals walking this journey and are, doing some research, learning probably from peers, women, black women, moms, about what this experience entails. So I think this conversation is probably the first of many, but I think focusing in survivorship has been great. A ever-transitioning, experience for us.
Kayoll: Yeah, I think we mentioned it briefly in our previous episodes when we were kind of reviewing our treatment experience and experience in survivorship. Being that I work in the field of oncology, I’ve had the pleasure of listening to experts in this field talk about, cognitive function and its side effects of chemotherapy, of different treatment methodologies, modalities, in treating cancer. So it’s always interesting listening to the experts talk about it, reading the articles, and then personalizing it to see, okay, what am I experiencing that is being reflected here in the literature.
Kayoll: Which is different because being so ingrained in this field, I’ve always had to kind of, put myself separate create some boundaries where I separate myself from what I’m reading versus myself as let’s say a patient or a survivor I try to for my own mental health, create some type of separation or think of it as a in the third person think of myself in the third person rather than as the patient reading about this and so, when I take off like my research hat it’s always interesting, thinking of bringing it more personal to think about, okay, how does this reflect in my own life? So yeah, I kind of had to go through that as we were preparing for this episode too.
Cassandra: Yeah, and, I think that line of separation, that line of delineation is super important. One, you don’t want to get too in your head about these things, right? You’re not the actual person and being studied the, NB research itself. And so I think what’s super important is that you not just engulf yourself in it. Oh, okay. I think I lost you. I can’t see you. Okay, let’s stop.
Defining Cognitive Decline and the Impact of Cancer Treatment
Kayoll: Today we’re talking about issues of focus, which can be linked to cognitive functioning, and often a cognitive decline as a result of treatment for cancer. If we are going to define cognitive decline, we would define it as changes in memory, concentration, information processing speed, and executive functioning that can have an impact on cancer patients’ everyday life. These things are widespread and common, and many cancer patients report it as well.
Cassandra: That is a great start to help the audience define or give some context to what we’ll be discussing today. I know that we have two different experiences and we’re trying to figure out what the changes are.
Are there changes that we’re experiencing because of what we’ve been through, or maybe the environment is now playing into it with our world being so vastly engulfed in a digital age? We’re moving faster than we’ve ever moved in our human history.
Kayoll: Without a doubt, yes. We are flooded with information. Often it’s an information overload at this point.
Personal Perspectives on Mental Clarity
Cassandra: I couldn’t agree more. So, one of the questions we have to ask ourselves is, do we believe we’re experiencing some sort of shift? How would you describe your current mental state? Are you wanting me to go first, Kayoll?
Kayoll: Yeah, why not? Sure.
Cassandra: I kind of want you to go first.
Kayoll: You want me to go first? Okay. I think for me, how do I describe my current mental state? I think of it in different ways. In terms of my ability to focus, there’s definitely been a shift in that concentration for extensive periods of time.
This is especially true when you’re doing high-functioning tasks that require you to take in new information, apply it fairly quickly, and have some type of output that is legible, readable, and clear. Those tasks have been challenging. I’ve noticed that.
Even before being diagnosed, when I was pregnant and going through the changes in hormones that come with a pregnancy, I felt that pregnancy fog then. I think that was my first clear experience feeling that haze mentally in my brain and my mind.
After being diagnosed and going through treatment and all of that, that felt exasperated. Coming out of those two major seasons of life where I felt like my brain was just going through so much up and down, I still feel lingering effects of it.
I am still having to intentionally figure out ways and strategies to be able to complete my work. I’m still figuring out ways to integrate strategies in my daily life that allow me to get what I need to get done in a way that is feasible, practical, and consistent.
Cassandra: I understand what you’re saying. What I’m gathering is you may have been experiencing these shifts in thought, the way you think, and your focus prior to even all of this.
Now there is this compounding effect of mommyhood, treatment, coming out of treatment, and now in survivorship. You’re having to constantly recalibrate yourself and figure out what it means in an evolving space. Your work is also technical, and that is also taking up what I imagine is brainpower.
To answer the same question, what do I believe my mental state to be right now? I’m not going to get too scientific; I’m just going to try to give it words. We have conversations outside of recording our sessions here and I feel like it’s just busy, like a constant hum. I’m always on.
I work really well with analogies when I describe things. If a TV is on and you’re flipping channels, there’s a whole movie playing in the background, and you scoop to another channel. What happens? You don’t get the end of the other one and you’ve hopped to another thing.
It doesn’t mean that the story isn’t still going, but you’ve just already hopped into it. I think what that leaves me feeling often is a little bit of rush or low-grade anxiety. It is not enough to necessarily make me freeze, but enough for me to feel it, like a “get off my back” type of feeling.
Being a mother who’s in survivorship, who has undergone treatment, and also the space of technology asking us to work faster than ever, I feel like there is too much that I’m trying to do in the day. My mind is saying, “if you just slow down, you might feel better about it.”
The Mental Burden of Work and Productivity
Kayoll: The more I talk about it, the more I realize how work dominates my thoughts and the load that I’m carrying. Do you feel the same for you?
Cassandra: Girl, I’m about to get real with the audience. I kid you not, maybe last night, I’m pretty sure I had a dream about work. I’m constantly having dreams about work where someone’s either asking for something or I feel nervous.
Sometimes it’s when I have a presentation or when I have to train or meet with people in a way that I am now deemed a subject matter expert. I do feel like work is taking up a huge mental space for me. So much so that when other things are happening, I hear them, but I’m not really hearing them.
There’s going to be books and probably a few articles tagged in this session, but I was reading a book that spoke about parenting and being a working parent. The author described one thing: when anyone, your husband, anyone is talking and you have a Charlie Brown moment where he goes “womp womp womp womp womp.”
You say “mm-hmm” and you say “yes,” assuming that you’ve probably heard when you actually did not hear what they said. You’re too far gone. Never mind if it’s in the workspace; I’m not going back to ask. I’m just going to try to fill in the blank later. I feel like that is happening way too often.
Kayoll: That’s so funny and it’s so true. It often makes me wonder, if I could replace work, what would dominate my thoughts? Where would it go? I think that it leaves you with room to be creative or room to think of purpose, meaning, and fulfillment.
Is this the reason why many survivors, if they can, choose to quit their jobs and do something that is fulfilling with their time? Because of the mental load that having to work in whatever capacity does to themselves and just that load that they carry on a daily basis.
I think of it from the survivorship perspective, but then I also think, is this idea only selective to survivors? I often wonder if this is what being in your 30s is when you’re in the core of your producing phase where you’re working to try to build towards retirement.
You’re working, you’re taking care of children, you’re raising children. You have so much to pay for. You’re trying to pay down debt. You’re trying to, at the same time, achieve financial independence. All these things that come with the 30s and the 40s when you’re in the grind.
Choosing to say, “Okay, I’m going to check out and I’m going to risk it by doing something that doesn’t fit the mold with me staying in the nine to five.” Is that load for the space that the nine to five takes up in the mind and the weight that it takes up in the body the reason why people boldly choose to leave it and pursue something else?
Cassandra: I think on top of that, when your life is threatened in any capacity, it gives you a reality check that you were not expecting. It forces you to put the things that matter most first.
I think a lot of people that either have career shifts or life shifts sometimes are like, “I don’t really want to be with this person. I’m going to have a divorce,” or “I really don’t want to live here. I want to travel more,” or “I really don’t like this job.”
When you have an experience like that, it forces you to put your priorities first. I am not shocked that people say, “I think I can make better use of my time here.” How do I become intentional in a way that suits me and is fitting of me?
No one wants to deal with an unnecessary load, meaning a load that you’ve selected for yourself and you don’t like. It would behoove you to say, “You know what? I don’t have to do this anymore.” I was talking to a doctor who studies psychiatry, and he says we undermine the energy it takes to be experiencing something negative.
It takes energy to be positive, yes, but negative things take a lot more energy from us than we could ever imagine. Small things like negative self-talk or not being in a profession that we enjoy take more energy than the average.
If you enjoy your job or at least find purpose in it and you’re able to have some sort of positive feedback loop, that might take less energy than someone who is like, “Oh, I can’t stand this place,” and continues to show up. I’m sure that also plays into your ability to focus because you’re almost fighting it as you go to it every day. It creates mental tension.
Productivity Challenges and Coping Mechanisms
Kayoll: I think for me, I enjoy the work that I do. It’s definitely worthwhile and impactful. My challenge is the productivity that needs to go along with that enjoyment for you to be successful. Seeing that slowness and that slowing down in productivity is what challenges my thinking and saying, “Okay, do I still belong here?”
Cassandra: So what I’m hearing is that you have the ability to do it, but it’s the pace that is causing tension. It’s causing you to feel like you’re not fast enough, which is causing some sort of mental tension.
Kayoll: It can express itself in anxiety, in worry, and in sleepless nights. Or even in procrastination.
You are thinking so much of something that you use negative avoidance coping skills, so you avoid the source of that tension that’s going on internally and try to suppress it and push it down. But at the end of the day, you’re only hurting yourself.
Cognitive Assessment and High-Functioning Performance
Cassandra: It’s so interesting, the articles that we read. For those of you who are watching this episode, I’m looking down because we’re talking about focus here and I want to make sure that we’re hitting on some of the things.
Cognitive focus is not just a medically induced thing. There’s a plethora of things that may cause a person in survivorship to be feeling mentally different.
Kayoll: Oh, you mean cognitive dysfunction?
Cassandra: Cognitive dysfunction, or I’ll call it cognitive shifts. A section of what I took out of the article is that sometimes a person may be such a high performer—someone might deem Cassandra and Kayoll high performers—we’re educated, we have advanced degrees, and we have the ability to take technical information and relate it to people.
We might be assessed and be deemed normal because we were functioning high anyway. We hit the normal parameters of any person, although we feel a shift. Someone says, “Yeah, you’re fine,” and just sends us about on our merry way.
Kayoll: I think that’s one of the issues with these tools used to measure cognitive functioning. Your score could be norm, but internally, you feel that there’s a difference.
Cassandra: Exactly. On top of that, as people do more research and understanding the impacts of a surgery, of chemotherapy, of additional systemic medications that may be impacting the body, it’s not just medications that are impacting your body.
The side effects of those things might be fatigue, your mood, and overall depression or anxiety. You may want to focus and say, “For the next hour and a half, I’m going to read this article,” but if you’re tired, does that not impact your performance?
If you’re not feeling great, you’re not going to show up the way that you want. I think both of us need to give ourselves grace in that because we’re processing multiple things. It’s not just what’s happened medically.
The Challenges of the Digital Age
I’m going to shift here a little bit. In the midst of trying to figure out our minds and those of people who are also walking any type of health shift, what are the distractions in 2026 for a vibrant millennial such as ourselves? What are the distractions that you feel are impeding on your cognitive focus?
Kayoll: In my ability to focus, I think certainly the cell phone always being accessible regardless of where you are. Having that phone with you means anyone can call you at any minute, text you at any minute, notifications going off. It’s a powerful tool, but it’s also a very distracting tool.
In addition to the cell phone is your connection to social media, especially if notifications are turned on for that. The scrolling, the dopamine fix that you get from swiping left or keep swiping and all of that. I think it trains our brain to constantly want that feeling.
That is distracting depending on where you are in life. I have children as well, so that’s also distracting, but even then, I think that just goes along with the phase of life I’m in. Obviously, that’s a wanted and needed distraction. I don’t want to say I want to get rid of my children or anything like that, but I think that’s a normal source of it as well.
Cassandra: That’s so huge. Same boat, two kids. I too feel like the phone is single-handedly the most disruptive thing that our society is dealing with today. We have access to information at such a rapid pace.
We have AI coming in. ChatGPT and Claude are in every podcast I listen to, whether it’s about health or business. It’s everywhere. I think I need to do a little bit more research because I know there’s people who are super into the AI and have centered their careers now around it.
I think really what I want to see out of all of this information disruption is—efficiency is great—but I want to make sure as a population, what are the impacts of this infrastructure? We’re building at such a rapid rate. We’re disrupting the earth.
Now that we are trying to be that much more efficient, can we just solve some human issues like disease, environmental issues, water quality, like the food disparities that we’re seeing? Are we growing our foods in a sustainable and healthy way?
I really want to see AI come into that because how I’m experiencing it is, “How can you help me write a better email?” or “Can you take this data and summarize it?” I really hope that the doctors, the scientists, and the people who are responsible for human infrastructure and life are using it for that. I feel like it’s mentally pulling us in a way that is so distracting. Sometimes even when we’re on the internet, we don’t know what’s real versus what is made up information anymore.
Kayoll: I agree with you.
Holistic Approaches: Nutrition and Fasting
Cassandra: We both agree that the cell phone is single-handedly the biggest distraction. To feed on that, what are you doing to make sure that you are finding time for focus and not letting the pace of all of this take you away?
Kayoll: I try to approach it holistically. I’m not always the best with it or consistent, but I’m working on my consistency. First, I’m trying to have a better diet: drinking a lot of water, more fish in my diet, more protein, and fiber as well. I’m thinking more about gut health and the brain-gut connection.
I’ve been reading about The Longevity Diet. It’s a book by this researcher from USC. He wrote the book, The Longevity Diet, and it includes a lot about fasting. It discusses how the people who have lived the longest in this world fasted and gotten rid of red meat, eating fish with more vegetables.
I was reading that book last week and I was trying to organize myself and make a plan for food planning and shopping to fit that in. I do definitely believe in the power of fasting. I’ve done it before for five days when I was having issues with my knee and the knee pain went away.
I’ve been reading a lot of Mindy Pelz. She has a lot of books on how to fast and doing it properly. I was reading her book during that time and wanting to be more consistent and including that in my diet. I’m trying to apply it because you can read so much that it’s overwhelming, but I’m trying to do the “do” part of it.
I’m trying to do it in a way that is feasible and not just for me, but for the family and the children as well.
Cassandra: I love that. That’s really important. I think the biggest thing that you could do for yourself—we’re all trying to build wealth, be more knowledgeable, have a level of wisdom, give our kids experience—I think without your health, none of those things are possible. I love that you’re taking some time to use information to take action.
Exploring Medical Support and Attention Medications
Kayoll: In addition to that, I’ve also had conversations with my PCP about it and asking questions about attention medication and what are the benefits of taking different ADHD medications for focusing and cognitive processing.
We’ve had conversations about Ritalin. We’ve had conversations about Adderall and that potentially being used. Even in one of my conversations with one of my mentors, who’s a high-functioning physician, she also went through the experience of having that fog as well and turning to those types of medications.
I think it is normal. I’ve ended up trying Ritalin. I didn’t really like it that much; it gave me headaches. I think I only took it maybe two or three times. I’m currently trying Adderall, and I’ve had really good results from that so far. It’s only been a couple of weeks, but I can see the shift and the difference when I take it when I need to get something done.
Otherwise, I don’t take it at all. I like that I’ve been able to just take it as needed.
Cassandra: Awesome. So those are great action items to help with focus. I hear your two approaches in nutrition and also, when needed, medications that help with this stuff. There’s a lot of people doing that.
I remember being in college and when we had to write papers and when it was finals week, people were looking for that. It’s not something to strike as being taboo; it is something that is more vastly used than we could imagine. If it’s working, let’s make sure we do that.
Kayoll: It’s so funny because I’ve always prided myself on not needing medications for things and struggling through this for years now. But I realized, no, it’s okay if you need help from your physician, and not feeling some type of way.
Even I was struggling with whether I should even do this or try this. I’m just like, “Man, you just had how much chemo and stuff pumped into you? What are you worried about?” Obviously, it is taken within recommended dosages, but I felt some type of way even approaching the subject with my PCP.
It was about being vulnerable in that way because I just never viewed myself as the person that would need to take something to help with focus.
Structural Strategies for Focus
Cassandra: You know, we are in different timelines on this journey. I’m probably feeling the hesitance that you were feeling now. I’m just recently transitioning back to work and I’m like, “Okay, hold up, everybody. Could you repeat that?”
I know I read the email, but I’m not remembering the email. Was I present when I read the email? Oh, wait, here comes the school calling; you’ve got to go pick up your kids from daycare. There’s so many things coming in that I’m like, “Is it me or is it the world?”
I think eventually, and this is a conversation for maybe five or ten years down the line, we’re going to start saying it’s the world. For right now, you can’t just wait for the world to change itself; we have to make sure that we’re managing ourselves in it.
The methods I’m using are literally trying to put my phone face down or outside of the room entirely. That’s been one. Number two, I realize this is being applied to the workspace because it’s the space I find we have to be the most structured when it comes to focus.
Another thing I’m using is time blocks. If I am in a meeting, unless someone wants to remove me from said meeting, I’m going to be in that meeting. I live in a world where as I’m in a meeting, people are messaging about the meeting in a separate side conversation with two or three stakeholders.
They are pinging me on my texting. I might be getting a phone call as the emails and other messages are coming in. All of that is happening in real time.
If I went 20 years back to what our world looked like when we were in the library or in class, there was no phone. There was no email. There were no text messages coming in. A lot of this is self-induced and I’m telling myself to take control of what I feel like I can control.
Is it working? Girl, ask my manager; I pray that it is. But I’m trying to say, if this is 9:00 to 9:30, let it be 9:00 to 9:30. Do I feel the anxiety and pressures of people coming in and messaging me? Sure.
But I have to trust that if I had a doctor’s appointment, or if my kid had an emergency, or if you were traveling on a plane, you would not be able to get to that. I’m trying to wire my mind to do the same in my actions from day to day.
I do think that our world is currently unforgiving when it comes to going slower. It’s something that we’re going to have to wrestle with later. Going fast is sometimes not a bad thing, particularly with surgeries or emergencies, but for the times when we simply do not need to, I’m hoping that our world slows down a bit. I feel crazy in it.
Kayoll: You’re not alone. I think about that, too, for the next generation. They’re growing up with so many distractions. The simple thing of learning to focus is going to set our children apart from their peers in dramatic ways, just as it did when we were growing up.
Finding Hope through Neuroplasticity and Faith
Cassandra: Absolutely. I am trying to incorporate reading time and puzzle time—quiet play. I’m even going back to the cartoons that we used to watch, Little Bear, shout out to that. Small little things that I felt were just more soothing to the mental palate than what my kids are watching now.
I’m trying to invite all of that: being outside, taking walks. Our generation is going to be studied 10 or 20 years from now because we’re the generation dealing with both sides. We knew what it was like to go to the park and somebody would be like, “Okay, come back before the lights come on.”
Our parents were able to navigate these streets without any of these technological means. I don’t know where the top of the mountain is on this, but I pray that there’s no more negative side effect to us from a cognitive standpoint.
I did read somewhere that there’s a “technological amnesia” happening where, as you mentioned before, because of the short bits of information that we’re receiving, we are not holding information in the same way that we used to.
Kayoll: Are you saying that it’s going in our short-term memory bank rather than our long-term?
Cassandra: Correct. If I say, “Hey Kayoll, what did you do in the past hour?” you might be able to tell me. But then if I ask you what yesterday was like, you’re like, “I don’t know, it’s gone.”
Tying this back in, we are survivors trying to find the happy medium between all of this. What is your advice to the audience, particularly those who might be in survivorship? What advice do you give them?
Kayoll: Have hope. We’ve talked a lot about the issue, but there are things that we can do. Changing our diet to an anti-inflammatory diet, the power of sleep—seven to eight hours—to give our minds rest, and the power of physical activity in regulating our bodies and our nervous system.
Moving our body is medicine. We’re in such a sedentary lifestyle now that we have to fight to move, but moving is health. As I’m saying it, it’s also for myself too. I think of how physically active I used to be as a tomboy growing up, and now I hardly move.
Trying to go back to my inner self is important. Then there are practical things like task management skills: setting reminders, calendar events, and writing things down. I walk around with a pen and a little book.
Cassandra: Analog.
Kayoll: Analog, yeah. I’m trying to decentralize things on my calendar, but also have things where I can physically write and see and go back to. There’s hope.
I was reading about neuroplasticity and how our brain can figure things out. It can be remodeled and learn new pathways of doing things. We just have to be consistent and set things in feasible ways.
We have to have feasible processes for how we’re going to remodel our brain to do what we need it to do. The brain is such a powerful muscle and such a powerful tool that God has given us. There’s hope, but it’ll take consistent effort to figure out what works for each of us.
Cassandra: I completely resonate. I love the positive of it where our minds have the ability to expand. We’re constantly firing neurons. The neuroplasticity of our minds allows us to take in more, but I think there’s something to be said about slowing down.
All of us right now are putting a lot of unnecessary pressures on ourselves. We speak to each other and speak to friends, and the amount of things that we’re trying to get done in these 24 hours makes us upset that we can’t recall the last day or something from a month ago.
To me, we’re in a transition of space as a society. I resonate with the hope aspect; when you are transitioning, you have to allow the “figuring out” piece to happen. We’re living it in real time and we don’t know what the solution is for every scenario.
The tips and tricks that I’m putting in start with: your body is first. Don’t let 2:00 PM come by and you’re sitting there wondering why your stomach has a hole in it because you haven’t eaten all day—unless you’re choosing to fast. I will be reading The Longevity Diet hopefully with you so that we can exchange ideas.
Outside of hope and making sure you remember yourself in all of this, trust your body. Our bodies are smart organisms. When it growls, or when you feel an ache, please attend to it. Let’s not try to do the most.
The way I find myself using ChatGPT and Claude for research is finding techniques to plan for the meals or finding ways to manage my schedule. I still want downtime.
If anybody hears me in conversation, I’m not asking them what they’re doing; I’m asking them what they are putting down so they can do what they’re doing. I don’t think that question is being asked enough. It’s all about what we want to achieve or contribute to society, and I’m not hearing what is going to come down.
The delicate balance between our ability to expand and making sure we’re not overdoing it is a work in progress. I kind of feel like we are overdoing it.
Kayoll: Yeah. But I do like what you said about slowing down and quiet time. We’re not alone. God sees us and he knows what we’re going through. That’s what gives me faith and hope to know that I can do this.
I know that he was with me through treatment and he’s still with me now. I talk to him about how I’m feeling through prayer and reading my Bible. I definitely get renewed strength to keep going and I’m thankful for that.
Cassandra: That’s awesome. I think we’re good.
Kayoll: Yeah. Talk to you next time.
Cassandra: Until next time, guys. Don’t forget to subscribe, like, and leave some commentary for Stage Hope. Again, our intention is to get our voices out about our experience, not just to help ourselves in navigating all this, but to help others. Stick around for more; we look forward to having you.